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His Dark Materials: The Conversation

On March 15, 2004, Philip Pullman, the author of the trilogy His Dark Materials, met with the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, at the National Theatre to discuss religious education and the representation of religion in drama and entertainment. In a recent speech at Downing Street, the Archbishop had recommended His Dark Materials to schools and was glad to see a lot of school groups at the National Theatre’s stage adaptation of the books. He did however mention that it was important for teachers to carefully analyse the world created in the story, and to separate what is reflective of Christian teaching from what isn’t.

In this event, chaired by Robert Butler, author of The Art of Darkness, a book on the stage adaptation of His Dark Materials, Pullman and the Archbishop looked at different forms of art, such as film, drama and novels, and discussed if and how they could be used to enhance Religious Education. They looked at how ideas are represented in art and specifically how religion is represented in popular culture. The event closed with questions from the audience.

To listen to the conversation, click on the video links to the right. You can listen to the conversation in sequence, or go straight to a topic that interests you.

 
1. Introduction
 
2a. In His Dark Materials, what is reflective of Christian teaching and what is not? (Part One)
 
2b. In His Dark Materials, what is reflective of Christian teaching and what is not? (Continued)
 
3. Discussion of the idea that the world is fake and that there is a real truth to be discovered.
 
4. Discussion of the notion of the Fall.
 
5. What should be taught in Religious Education and how should it be taught?
 
6. Should fiction be used in Religious Education?
 
7. Do fiction, drama and poetry present religious points of view in different ways?
 
8. Discussion of the use of the novel in Religious Education.
 
9. Is using film a good way to approach Religious Education?
 
10. Discussion of the film The Passion of the Christ directed by Mel Gibson
 
11a. Discussion of mythology, and the representation of ideas in art. (Part One)
 
11b. Discussion of mythology, and the representation of ideas in art. (Continued)
 
12. Audience Question 1
 
13. Audience Question 2
 
14. Audience Question 3
 
15. Audience Question 4
 
16. Audience Question 5
 
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